|By Nancie S. Martin
and Broadway in
is not one of your more glamorous corners. Newspapers blow down the
decaying streets, and in a shabby park nearby, old men jockey for a place
on the slatless benches.
One sunny day in October, though, 165th and Broadway, home of
the once-glorious Audobon Ballroom, is the location for Desperately
Seeking Susan, a film which, though set in unglamorous old
, features one of the most glamorous rock stars of recent memory in her
first acting role Ė Madonna.
The Audobon, newly spiffed up through the magic of paint and clever set
design, is serving as the filmís ďMagic ClubĒ, and Madonna, clad in
brilliant orange and black with sequined boots, and festooned with beads,
chains and bracelets, struts through and around it, seeming as at home as
ďSusanĒ amidst the lights, cameras and action as she would in the
Madonna is fidgety. She confers with co-star Rosanna Arquette, two blond
heads bobbing together; she asks director Susan Seidelman a question; she
waits through endless retakes of a single scene, toying with the
cigarettes she hates but must smoke in character; she flirts with all the
male members of the crew.
And somewhere in between all this, she squeezes in a chatty,
frequently-interrupted interview, beginning with the smiling,
orange-lipped observation that sheís very tired of doing interviews.
VRS: What are you most tired of people asking you?
Madonna: Why am I doing this movie, what things do I have in common
with the character, and do I like the rest of the cast, stuff like that.
Theyíre all pretty obvious questions.
VRS: Why do you think people want to know about your motivations?
Madonna: Because they like to get into those personal aspects,
because they want to be able to identify with me, and maybe a lot of
readers have dreams and ideas about what theyíd like to do. People
always want to know the why and how, how stars got to be hot.
VRS: Did you?
When I was little? I think I liked knowing about what they were like when
they were little, their background, where they grew up, what they were
like as kids, probably how they got discovered, and those are all the
VRS: What do you think is important about you making this movie?
Madonna: Itís important to me because I intend to have a career
as an actress as well as a singer, and I gotta start somewhere. This is a
very good first project for me, and so itís important to me. Itís
important that itís good, and this is the right time, so everything just
seems right about it.
VRS: Is learning lines that you didnít write harder than learning
lyrics that you did?
Madonna: No. I sing songs that I donít write. Memorization is
really easy; itís integrating it into the actual scene and really
feeling it thatís hard. You have to forget about the lines, so it sounds
like youíre just saying them.
VRS: The actual process Ė the makeup and the waiting and the
sitting around Ė is all that hard to get used to?
Madonna: Yeah, it is, because Iím a really hyperactive person. I
hate sitting around more than anything. And so many times they make you
get up at five in the morning, and they wonít use you until after lunch.
Itís so frustrating, Ďcause you canít get mad at them. Theyíll
just say, ďWell, thatís making movies.Ē Itís so unpredictable. The
weather changes, the sun changes, they have technical difficulties Ė
there are so many elements involved that really just take time.
VRS: Whereas in records Ė
Madonna: Well, in records and in videos, I control everything. I
decide when to start, I decide who I work with, I decide the studio we
work in. In videos, I decide Ė to me, itís all centered around me. I
have total control. Here, Iím just the actress.
(As if to prove this last statement, Madonna is called back to the set.
Later, over a lunch of salad, we continue.)
VRS: Do you still dance?
Madonna: yeah, in my trailer in front of my mirror and in
nightclubs, but not in a class situation. Iíd like to, but I donít
have time. I donít want to do it unless I can go regularly. Itís like
any kind of class, you miss things if you donít go once in a while. You
canít really get anything out of it that way.
VRS: Being a famous person, when you walk down the street people
must stop you all the time. Is that hard to deal with?
Madonna: It depends on what kind of mood Iím in. Sometimes I want
people to notice me, when Iím feeling like I really need to have my ego
boosted and stuff, and sometimes I want everyone to leave me alone.
VRS: It must make it harder to go shopping.
Madonna: I donít even go shopping anymore. I hate to be stared at
when Iím looking at something on the rack.
VRS: So do you miss that?
Madonna: I miss being anonymous. I miss being someone that people
just looked at Ďcause they thought I was interesting Ė you
know what I mean? Ė and not because they know who I am. If they
know who you are they think that they have the right to come up and ask
you stuff, get things from you.
VRS: Do people mostly want your autograph?
Madonna: My body. (laughs)
VRS: What do you want to do when you finish this up?
Madonna: I want to continue seeing my psychiatrist. Iím going to
go out to LA for a while and look for a house to buy and, and what else?
Then itíll be Christmas time, and then I have to get a band together and
go on tour.
VRS: Are you going to move to LA?
Madonna: No. Just have a place there. I hate it here in the winter.
VRS: If you could make a movie Ė if you could make your next
movie with anyone and it could be about anything, what do you think it
would be about and who would be in it?
Madonna: It would be about Ė I donít want to say because Iím
already trying to do that right now.
VRS: What is the one question that you wish someone would ask you
that no one ever has?
Madonna: ďIíve asked you too many questions already, havenít